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Ireland has a long history of neutrality, but Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is forcing many in the country to reconsider. So in this video we discuss Ireland’s new conversation around NATO and why they might finally be considering membership.

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  1. @dannybartlett4225

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    No they have no military for 1 reason the second is they could not afford the yearly payments 😂😂😂

  2. @NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Noting to do with neutrality, you can’t join NATO when you have a territorial claim on another country. So even now the Republic of Ireland would be on dodgy territory because of its constitutional aspiration to colonise Ulster or Northern Ireland.

  3. @dannydonnelly8198

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    The only reason Ireland and the Nordic/ Scandinavian countries have a higher standard of living than the US is due to their assumption that NATO (basically the US military) will protect them from a Russian attack or invasion, therefor they forgo joining NATO or refuse to pay the minimum 2% of their GDP that all members pledge. Of these countries only Iceland and Norway were NATO members before Russia invaded Ukraine and neither ever spent the 2% of their GDP all members pledged. If fact, Iceland doesn't pay anything. I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 or 2020 but I'm going to this year. He had a point about the US being taken advantage of by Europe. All the money the above mention countries can spend on healthcare and education should be going to American citizens. There's no reason for the US to be in NATO

  4. @michaelcraig58

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Ireland has nothing to offer NATO,,,thy going to back us up with thir ight propeler light fighters

  5. @franbonner6691

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    We in the west are bombarded whit propaganda about the threat of the Russians while at the same time we build military bases all around them in the form of NATO expansion nato is not a defensive Alliance it is extension of USA military aggression all around the world we only have to look. back at our recent history to see that the Second World War the war that was to end all wars was so profitable we would be mad to stop them never taking in to account the human cost of this madness and they want us to join this genocide of the human race

  6. @timmccarthy7018

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Ireland cannot join nato.
    Reason 2 nato countrys cannot have a conflict of interest meaning Northern Ireland. So would be totally against the rules of nato.

  7. @seancarey8579

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Along with many other comments on Varadkar being Taoiseach and not president, the last Ireland video had a horrendous pronunciation of Fianna Fáil and Celtic football club. The Schengen area video also had the Iceland flag in place of the Norway flag, and these are the only three videos I’ve watched this week. A small bit of fact checking goes a long way when acting as a news outlet. Enjoy the videos but the review process needs work!

  8. @ericclausen6772

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    I can't see any reason why they can't join NATO Nations my people come from Ireland well half anyway

  9. @jamessherry3019

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Ireland said about fifty years ago it wouldn't join NATO as long as the British continued to occupy the north

  10. @asanulsterman1025

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    This article paints a very rosy, almost propagandistic, picture of ROI's role in WW2. It then goes on to blow smoke up our collective arses, ROI will never join NATO because it believes it already gets all the protection it will ever need for free, from UK & USA

  11. @danielprefontaine4030

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    We dont have enough men or money to maintain an effective army.
    British army protects our airspace.
    The benefits for us are financial, while they're benefits are having free reign over sovereign airspace and irelands expansive economic area.
    So, in short, it serves us both.

  12. @SamJonesMediaHUD

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    UK protects Irish airspace (mainly for selfish reasons), it has no need to join

  13. @ColtSievers1000

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    No fucking way . EU is enough for us . There be holy war with in our country if we did

  14. @kevinfox5594

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Varadkar has never been president of Ireland (he was Taoiseach, not President, they're two different roles). I mean if you're meant to be offering informed commentary you should at least get your basic facts straight

  15. @supertomcat6494

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    not interested in being a us vassal they're a bit too war thirsty for us but thanks anyway

  16. @JosephDonohoe-dx7qw

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    IRELAND will never be. a member of NATO becaus A member OF NATO has control of over part of OUR COUNTRY

  17. @williamcannon7262

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Not in Irelands interests to join Nato

  18. @toshe.6690

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Irelands independence is guaranteed without treaty or even a second thought. if any invader went near Ireland the USA and UK would undoubtably move to protect it. quite handy for Ireland to have it`s independence guaranteed without having to ask for it.

  19. @kennethmurray795

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    You forgot about Austria

  20. @tonymarkham4652

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Ireland. Why the h.e.ll are they not in NATO, to be in NATO is to be in h.e.ll ref.
    John Pilger, journalist

  21. @thehunterstruck

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    If you look at nato countries a lot of them have relatively high defense budgets. The US of course being the largest and also the main funder of NATO. Even our neighbors to the north are having a super hard time pulling their end of it because of who their prime minister is.. big kudos to Ireland for trying to stay peaceful right now even with the most documented war of our time going on. IF they wish to join I’m sure they would be accepted by the other members to complete the process. However, I’d much rather risk it with Ireland joining NATO than Ukraine. Ukraine joining would be a major major headache. The UK and Ireland are VITAL to Western Europe because if the East decides to move West and threaten the United States and or Canada then they can help make that western advance a major headache.

  22. @lucasgaming7052

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    This is old Sweden and Finland, a part of it now

  23. @mightyrighty1

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    the answer is simple one of NATOs fonding members was and still is occupying 1/5 of Ireland

  24. @adineatha9766

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    They'll eventually join NATO

  25. @mehallmcdonagh9908

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    These foreign war pigs wants Ireland to join Nazi-Nato while Nazi-Nato member, the British terrorists are Occupying Ireland and Spain.

    Russia has done nothing to the Irish People ever. Actually they helped us during the last genocide, so called famine.

    Thank you Russia from Ireland.

  26. @davisoneill

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Irish Patriots are enemies of the NATO Rapist Terror Gang.

  27. @billdonahue7374

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    They have no military The British do everything with Ireland. Ireland needs to build its military and we need Ireland. A huge amount of Americans are of Irish blood. Ireland is NATO but in different uniforms. Ireland needs to join NATO build a navy and Air Force big time. Russia keeps violating Irish waters.

  28. @bikeman9899

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    The Irish government has a problem. They know they must spend 10x of current defense spending annually. National prosperity depends on EU membership and free trade. They are struggling bc the public, a sizeable minority, object. The far left, anti NATO anti defense brigade are very loud and quite aggressive. THEY are also anti prosperity . MANY of these folk, not all, but many are anti EU as well. The government cannot permit a small group of committed ideologues to derail the country's prosperity. The anti NATO ppl will never admit this, but they ,if given a choice, would exit the EU to protect their precious, sanctimonious vision of neutral Ireland. They don't understand, or even care, that Ireland's prosperity is completely tied to global free trade, the international rules established post WW2 and of course, the EU which is the most successful peace and prosperity project in our part of the world. This is why the government, in June 23 is holding conferences around the country to debate security, threats and other related topics. They are trying to educate the general public many of whom are still happy with the myth that neutrality saved us In WW2. It didn't. It was pure luck, boosted by Hitlers mistake of postponing hos planned attack on Britain ( and Ireland) to attack Russia instead.

  29. @marykennedy2051

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    To cease being neutral and join in with your colonizers in wars of aggression is inexcusable. To do so betrays the Constitution of Ireland. If Ireland does this it will stand for nothing.

  30. @FanOfVan119

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    This is ridiculous. Every opinion poll in Ireland shows that we do NOT want to join NATO or be a part of PESCO.

  31. @kroche90

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    A year later, its still only our government that wants to join nato. The public are very vocal about not joining nato.

  32. @mindmesh7566

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Cuz they are smart????

  33. @hb19110

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Wrong information. Ireland WAS never in NATO and NEVER WILL BE. IRELAND IS NEUTERAL AND ALWAYS WILL BE. WE ARE A REPUBLIC. AMERICA CAN REFUEL ONLY AT SHANNON AIRPORT THEY ARE SEARCHED FOR PRISONERS AND WEAPONS ON PLANE AS THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED IN OUR NEUTRAL COUNTRY. NATO WILL BE DISBANDED. PLEASE CAREFUL AND SPEAK TRUTH. WE ARE NOT UK AND DO NOT ASK FOR INTELLIGENCE OF PROPAGANDA AGAINST RUSSIA.

  34. @eimhingalvin8864

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    All the support for the idea of joining NATO is coming from crazy old men and women who won't b'é sent to there deaths in a proxi war they can shut up or they will end up in a box during the civil war

  35. @eimhingalvin8864

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    We do not want to be part of imperial proxy wars so no not if the general public and the youth (the ones who will die so the only ones who's opinion matters) have are say.

  36. @jovialdemonn

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Because we don't want to join a fascist, imperialist war machine?

  37. @2ONQ2

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Its probably time for Ireland to leave the corrupt and faithless EU and join BRICS.

  38. @eliasprado4709

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    Ireland joining the nato goes against its constitution.However, Ireland should defend itself.

  39. @conorwhite2066

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    I remember a comment attributed to Tom Barry in speaking about WW2 in that Ireland should not take sides and just attack the side that invaded

  40. @brianbyrne4443

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    😊 speaking as a Proud IRISH MAN , WE WILL BE JOINING THE NATO FORCES JUST AS SOON AS WE CAN , 😊GIVEN THAT WE HAD ONE LEADER CALLED DEV – ALARA THAT SON OF A BITCH HAD IRELAND OUT OF NATO , 70 YEARS OF ONE PARTY GOVERNMENT FINNA FAIL , AND. GIVEN THE FAMINE. OF 1850S THERE WAS SOME REALLY BAD BLOOD 🩸 BETWEEN….. IRELANDS PM WHO IS NOT OUR PRESIDENT ….

  41. @Barry000

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    No no no no

  42. @gabhanachdenogla8342

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    I think it's easily explained in a historical context, we were colonised by the British Empire – after independence we didn't want to side with Britain – considering the previous generations just suffered a famine caused by British rule – no Irish government would have been taken seriously if they did so – many people here today support Palestinian independence, Ukrainian independence etc – because we still see the same correlations – NATO seems to be a military entity rather than economic peaceful body – so in my opinion I'd prefer to remain neutral as an Irish person.

  43. @toneschofield4609

    February 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    I say if Russia makes a move on Eire, we should let them get on with it. Ireland can't have it both ways. A so called rich european state, who won't even aquire a limited navy or air force. Do they think dear old blighty will come running to save them from attack? We should tell them bo**ocks.

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Liechtenstein’s ‘dualistic’ state:
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2017/01/30/the-curious-case-of-liechtenstein/

Liechtenstein’s constitution:
https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Liechtenstein_2011

Recurring tension over royal power:
https://blog-iacl-aidc.org/centenary-constitution-liechtenstein/2021/12/14/monarchy-and-direct-democracy-in-liechtenstein-an-impossible-combination

Examples of princely family threatening to leave:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1713201.stm
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/liechtenstein/9366747/Prince-of-Liechtenstein-threatens-to-leave-after-vote-on-his-powers.html

2003 constitutional referendum:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Liechtenstein_constitutional_referendum

2011 abortion referendum:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Liechtenstein_referendums

2012 constitutional referendum:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Liechtenstein_constitutional_referendum

Alois’ veto threat helped scupper 2011 abortion referendum:
https://verfassungsblog.de/small-country-big-hurdles/

2026 abortion decriminalisation initiative:
https://www.fristenlösung.li/initiative

Initiative received second-highest number of signatures:
https://landesspiegel.li/2026/07/fristenloesung-initiative-will-heute-4970-unterschriften-einreichen/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/aug/03/liechtenstein-abortion-law-modernised-prince-alois

Polling shows support for abortion decriminalisation initiative:
https://x.com/EuropeElects/status/2088323436913271216

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