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  1. @CannonBallEddie

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Law and legal are two different things mate – judges are now being retrained in constitutional law the way it should be not legality

  2. @mustbeaweful2504

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    It's probably a stronger case for leaders who do not listen to experts.

  3. @michaelgreen1515

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Financial penalties to nonprofit hospitals are counterproductive, while profit hospitals probably have the money to pay good lawyers anyways.

  4. @willardSpirit

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Short answer if you don't wanna watch the video: No, because of sovereign immunity

  5. @shewany5343

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    I think you could make a resonable argument that the trump administrations's negligence caused thousands of deaths

  6. @Paul_C

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Bloody hell, only a brit can make a video like this.

  7. @lifesucks5322

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    if you sue because you got the corona virus i believe you have no case

  8. @0MVR_0

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Suing a [democratic repulican] government is the attempt to recieve claims from the common people unless performed as a class action, which itself would annul the idea since the citizenry would be demanding it's own monies.

  9. @misfit2022

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Can protesters?

  10. @crazy9932

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Sadly u can not take a state or country to court. Im in us, we have a law about this. In order to bring a case against a state or country u must have suficientpowrr to match that country. Safe to say u might b a great pe teacher, but u got no nukes n china does, therefore u got nothing.

  11. @propoppop9866

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    I dotn like that idea after all the flu kills a few people each year dose the government have a obligation to have a lockdown each flu season , deciding were the line of death rate for each measures lies sounds best kept to democracy

  12. @talkythegamer2305

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    i do think that they do have some merit at least ageist the government in the sense that they did not prepare for the pandemic before hand becuse people like Bill Gates warned us that this was going to happen back in 2015.

  13. @jacksk935

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    the airplane example is ridiculous. through the but for test, it would prove that the plaintiff missed out on the job as a result of their own actions. if they really cared they would have travelled a few days before the job interview. not to mention it would also fall under contract law. I hate this stupid liberal unbiased news. if you are going to make a video on a subject you know nothing about at least do a bit more research than the Donaghue V Stevenson, has the principle that was established after the case has also developed and the case is only used to show the development of tort law.

  14. @ivangrozny875

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    My opinion is, this kinds of suits have too many variables to be reasonablly judged…The tourists from UK in Austria first should have checked UK site about traveling to other countries. And they probably got it on the plane, not the pub, that is how the virus spread from China so rapidly to every corner of the world. Then, did they infect someone else in that pub and did they die? Law is bullshit, who has money for a lawyer wins.

  15. @billthompson7072

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    The global peer review by judges is interesting, is that a thing to link to global poverty ?

  16. @MichaelWarman

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    2:ii…

  17. @MasterCleife

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    I work in a factory and there are virtually no distancing measures in place. We have to get changed in a cramped changing room, many of us at once and the canteen is too small to accomodate everyone. I don't leave the house apart from a twice weekly visit to my local supermarket and I won't go in there if it's busy and whilst I'm in there I'm extremely careful. I disinfect my hands on the way in as well as my shopping basket. I keep away from other people and disinfect my hands on the way out. As I work in a food factory, I'm naturally aversed to touching my face in public.
    My question is, if I were to catch the coronavirus, would I be able to sue my employer for damages seeing as how, if I get it, there is a high chance I caught it from work.

  18. @colinmunro3158

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    I’ve no idea if these claims have any legal merit, but these are all good questions to be asking.

  19. @topsander

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    3:39. this is a bad example. This is contract law, not tort law. You have a contract with the airline to take you to New York and that contract is breached, so you are entitled to damages. The question whether there's been a breach of a duty of care is kind of irrelevant here, in the sense that the breach of the contract implies that there has been a breach of a duty of car (in other words: the duty of care was to fulfull the contract in a good manner, the fact that the contract has been breached makes clear that this has happened). However, it is not reasonable to expect the airline to cover damage like the loss of your income, so the only damages you'd probably get paid is the price you paid for your ticket.

    Tort law, on the other hand, is related to examples you gave earlier. An example of a tort in this case could be when the flight would not be cancelled, you would get to New York and back, but after that you'd get terribly sick because you have contracted the coronavirus and, for this reason, you can't work for three months, thereby losing a lot of your income. You could say that in this case the airline did fulfill its contractual obligations, but that is still breached its duty of care because it exposed you to the coronavirus when flying with them. An even clearer example would be the same situation, but now not with you getting very sick but still contracting the virus, but with someone close to you actually getting very sick after having been infected after having visited you after you returned from New York. That person has no contract whatsoever with the airline, but he/she might still argue that the airline should have cancelled the flight and that not doing so was a breach of a duty of care against him/here. Whether such a claim has any chance in court… I doubt it… but my point was to show the difference between contract and tort law and why your example isn't really a good one.

  20. @haseebur-rehman3218

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    There are other bases of claim against the government such as Right to Life duties on public authorities and Misfeasance in Public Office.

  21. @thewingedhussar4188

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    ROFL Trump HOPEs people can't sue the government over mishandling, otherwise the US will go bankrupt because of him ROFL

  22. @JohnDoe-bq9tq

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    The only see a case against the Chinese authorities in for not closing down the so-called "wet markets", live animal markets for a variety of exotic animals. One was directly linked to the emergence of SARS and virologists have been warning about the conditions there being extremely conductive to a virus jumping species for decades. China did close these markets down after SARS, but for political/economic reasons, they allowed them to open up again. It is not like other governments weren't aware of this, though. Maybe they should have applied some diplomatic pressure? I guess it wasn't a priority.
    The problem with cases like this is that, even though the potential damage is enormous, the risk is small and the costs of prevention are often huge and not shared by the same parties that share the risk. That makes it very hard to determine where the greatest "duty of care" lies. It's very easy to argue that "they" should pay the price for your peace of mind, while not contributing yourself. BTW, did "they" solve climate change yet?

  23. @dojokonojo

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Meanwhile here in the US, we sue the (State) government when they tell us to stay home to avoid getting sick. 🤢

  24. @davidharris2517

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    With the example you have with the tourists in Hungary, would you not also have to prove that they wouldn't get coronavirus if the restrictions were in place, which given that 80% of people are going to get it whatever lockdowns we put in place, wouldn't be possible.

  25. @chrisw0612

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Boring

  26. @rufusevison2913

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Is a pandemic not force majeur?

  27. @DaDunge

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    1:30 why is UK law being discussed on the TLDR EU channel? The UK is 1. Not part of the EU. 2. has a very diffrent legal system from most EU countries being antagonistic rather than inquisitive in nature.

  28. @lolliesbox4235

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Generally, a sovereign is immune from civil suit in its own courts and in foreign courts. Even if a foreign court claims that it has jurisdiction and the suit against the sovereign is successful in that foreign court, enforcement action will generally still needs to be be instituted in sovereign's home courts. If the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) escaped from a Wuhan lab in the People's Republic of China (PRC) as suggested by some, the probability of winning a lawsuit against a totalitarian state controlled by the Communist Party of China in a PRC court is exactly zero.

  29. @oakstrong1

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Well, I think the NHS certainly has a case for not ordering PPE as soon as the epidemic in China was known – anything can transfer to other countries before it is contained so it was obvious we would need it. (By experience, if China reports about an outbreak it is because they know it is going to affect other countries.) Some countries started ordering PPE as soon as in January. Besides, it is not like the government's stores were full . Moreover, to refuse an offer for joint ordering with EU because of political grandstanding certainly can be called negligence. Or worse.

    However, the NHS is a government agency… Still, if that would put money into its coffers… but on the other hand, how much would the lawsuit cost the tax payer?

  30. @accessallexperiences4719

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Do a video on the real culprits in this , China and the who

  31. @Niidea1986

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    No, they can't. People are the government, at least representatively; so it would be like if people sued themselves. Even if you succeed, how is the government supposed to pay? Taxes? So you take people's money through taxes and then give it back as retribution?

  32. @alessandroolivieri7

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    It seems like that a over national court of justice should take care of this problem due to its global spread… if we only had one 🙄🙄
    Oh wait but we European don't need stupid wigs to do justice, we have the EU Court of Justice, but if i remember correctly it's one of those things that british dislike the most of the EU…

  33. @Emmanuel-bq8yp

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    1:35 Well that isn't what happened she drank it and i don't think she bought it herself

  34. @waerlogauk

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    What about the failure of the hospitals to maintain 'health and safety at work', a very specific legal requirement. The lack of PPE was known since 2016.

  35. @gariadhocoinn2498

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    ik it isnt in any way relevant, but it lowkey annoyed me that he said beer instead of ginger beer when talking about Donoghue v Stevenson lmao

  36. @eduardogrilo6684

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    in my opinion this video is more for the UK or US not for EU because the law is different for country to country in Europe!
    But is a good video!

  37. @szymonpuk5547

    February 18, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Can you make a video about Poland's ghost elections? I think it's an interesting unprecedented matter.

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