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A couple of years ago French President Emmanuel Macron formed the Citizens’ Convention on Climate. The group was made up of 150 ordinary citizens and a handful of experts. Their task was to formulate France’s way forward both environmentally and democratically. The group came up with a number of ideas including amending the French Consitution and making Ecocide a crime.

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1 – https://www.france24.com/en/20200622-french-citizens-council-on-the-environment-proposes-making-ecocide-illegal
2 – https://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2019/04/13/un-collectif-appelle-a-la-creation-d-une-assemblee-citoyenne-de-gilets-citoyens_5449760_823448.html
3 – https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/25/emmanuel-macron-significant-tax-cut-gilets-jaunes-speech
4 – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48059063
5 – https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/housing-communities-and-local-government-committee/news/citizens-assembly-faq-17-19/
6 – https://www.conventioncitoyennepourleclimat.fr/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/04052020-convcit-Dossierdepresse-EN.pdf
7 – https://www.conventioncitoyennepourleclimat.fr/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/04052020-convcit-Dossierdepresse-EN.pdf
8 – https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/02/french-citizens-panel-to-advise-on-climate-crisis-strategies
9 – https://www.france24.com/en/20200622-french-citizens-council-on-the-environment-proposes-making-ecocide-illegal
10 – https://www.20minutes.fr/politique/2804383-20200621-convention-citoyenne-climat-referendum-constitution-crime-ecocide
11 – https://propositions.conventioncitoyennepourleclimat.fr/
12 – http://www2.assemblee-nationale.fr/langues/welcome-to-the-english-website-of-the-french-national-assembly#Preample
13 – https://propositions.conventioncitoyennepourleclimat.fr/objectif/legiferer-sur-le-crime-decocide/
14 – https://www.france24.com/en/20200622-french-citizens-council-on-the-environment-proposes-making-ecocide-illegal
15 – https://propositions.conventioncitoyennepourleclimat.fr/produire-et-travailler/
16 – https://propositions.conventioncitoyennepourleclimat.fr/se-deplacer-2/
17 – https://www.20minutes.fr/politique/2804411-20200621-ecologie-convention-citoyenne-climat-met-emmanuel-macron-pied-mur
18 – https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/96711/PASCAL_CANFIN/home
19 – https://www.leparisien.fr/environnement/pascal-canfin-seul-un-referendum-est-a-la-hauteur-de-l-exigence-climatique-18-06-2020-8338083.php
20 – https://www.20minutes.fr/planete/2803479-20200619-convention-citoyenne-climat-emmanuel-macron-apportera-premiere-reponse-propositions-29-juin
21 – https://www.20minutes.fr/planete/2803479-20200619-convention-citoyenne-climat-emmanuel-macron-apportera-premiere-reponse-propositions-29-juin

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  1. @giorgibregvadze7073

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Macron is married to his school French teacher lets take about that she is 25 years older then him she’s 65 and he’s 40!!!!!

  2. @Tom_Cruise_Missile

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Um… what. GMOs being ILLEGAL is just a fucking awful idea. GMOs are a boogeyman from people who think their fucking genes are going to mix with a tomato.

  3. @JankieHands

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    GMO used in the right way and right case could solve a lot of these problems, there should more regulation, banning directly is somewhat weird in climete sense.

  4. @edsiles4297

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    I'm watching the video in February 2021, so I'll tell you how it ended up :
    The proposals from the CCC were watered down real big. Corporate interest groups lobbied the government into issuing a bill that is devoid of any significant measure. Actually, more than 50 % of the initials proposals were eventually removed. The CCC was nothing short of a political stunt on Macron's part to try and look respectable.
    "Democracy and the climate will be saved together" Not under Macron, his record on the environment is as bad as Donald Trump's, and his government basically turned France into an authoritarian regime.

  5. @komradekevinthekommuneistd7362

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    "Respect for rights, liberties and principles must not compromise the preservation of the environment…"
    Does no one else see how this could catastrophically backfire?

  6. @sebastiaanvanwater

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    French speaker here. Listening without watching.

    Hearing the narrator saying "gilets jaunes" and especially "gilets citoyens", I had no idea what he was saying until the English translation followed.

    🙂

  7. @ancap1117

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Ecofascism

  8. @HopeRock425

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    What is this buzzing noise in the background?

  9. @Ramschat

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    I may like these proposals, but why on earth do they replace a carbon tax, rather than complement it!? Industrial ecologists generally agree that a carbon tax is the most efficient way to incentivise companies to make their businesses greener.

  10. @dictatoribenevolo8394

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    amazing great way!

  11. @chasingsunsets87

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    This ideology is actually making it hard in california. "Activists" or naive kids with not life experience….your denial and assumption that those are choosing to hurt the environment is actually doing more damage. The list goes on. This is the most ignorant things france can do….

  12. @franciscogabriel6773

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    All the time the international press and idiots like Macron, Greta and Dicaprio spread fake news about the Amazon rainforests but forget to look at NASA photos about fires around the world, such as in the tropical forests of Africa that have much more fires than in the Amazon rainforest. They're not saying anything about the fires in California or Australia. Why? Because the interest of this people is only money. They are useful idiots paid to defend the interests of groups that want to explore the subsoil of the Amazon in the future.

  13. @franciscogabriel6773

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Macron is a puppet of the globalists. They are interested in protecting the Amazon rainforest for the sole purpose of being able in the future to exploit the mineral resources that lie beneath the forest. We brazilians will protect that forest, but if they want to take it by force, we will shed blood for our territory. Macron is an idiot.

  14. @alberpajares4792

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    We have embraced the echologism as a religion, we have no other chance, no other planet to live..,

  15. @tilmanmai

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    But all in all it´s a great idea and basicall typical french, who are well known for their ability to fight hard for their wrights and play hardball with the most stubborn Presidents/ Primeministers.
    EVERY so-called "democratic" State could take out a paige of the long internal battle experience of the French Republic.

  16. @tilmanmai

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    What I would like to know is on how they word such a document, especially if one thinks about the 71,7% of electricity that is produced by nuclear power…

  17. @marneus

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    The same France that nuked Mururoa and sank the Rainbow Warrior…

  18. @0815michik

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    i love this video! more like this plz 😀

  19. @allyourcode

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    So, French people are saying "a carbon tax would be too onerous", but they propose making "ecocide" illegal… In other words, instead of paying a tax for burning fossil fuels, they would rather go to jail instead. Or is burning fossil fuels not considered "ecocide"?? If burning fossil fuels is not ecocide, it's hard to imagine how the CCC's proposal would have a meaningful impact on (France's contribution to) climate change.

    To me, it doesn't seem like the CCC put much analysis into whether their proposals meet their original goal of reducing emissions by 40%. E.g. turning off outdoor cafe heating is definitely a good idea, but it makes an insignificant contribution to goal total.

    People generally don't seem to recognize the fundamental human cause of climate change: consumption, an almost inevitable byproduct of simply being alive. Once you realize that simply living out our lives multiplied by the massive human population of 7 billion is the cause of all ecological degradation, it becomes clear that we must not ignore reducing the population. The most humane way of doing that is antinatalism. For example, if couples only had 1 child, pollution would be down by a whopping 75% in just two generations (87.5% in just three generations, etc.) without any other changes in lifestyle (welcome to the power of exponential decay). Of course, we should also be doing things like riding bikes instead of driving on top of antinatalism, but such changes only have a one time payoff. That is, they reduce pollution by X%, but unlike having fewer children, the X does not increase over time.

    The problem is not "companies"; it's us. We vote with our feet. That is, when we open our wallets, we send a powerful signal to companies (in fact, the only signal that they really understand) to do what they do so that we can have the comfortable life styles that we want. If we really cared about how their production methods are killing the environment, we would take our money elsewhere (and the alternatives would be more expensive; therefore, ultimately, a carbon tax is not really avoided, just rebranded). Obviously, that is not happening. So again, the conclusion is that we "the people" are the main culprit. Therefore, it very simply follows that we ought to reduce "we the people". Again, I am also in favor of other measures, but as long as the population is increasing, the already considerable challenge of stopping climate change becomes even more difficult.

    Furthermore, antinatalism can achieve ANY amount of pollution reduction that we deem to be "non-ecocidal" in a relatively short amount of time with relatively little effort. In fact, the effort required would actually be negative, since we would be doing less child raising, a very effortful job indeed.

    The only "hard" part is changing our minds about how many children we want. Such a change is definitely very achievable, because it has already been achieved in at least one place. Just look at China: in a short amount of time, people went from wanting zillions of kids to wanting just one child. Yes, it was a forced change, but a change in attitude (not just a change in behavior) did eventually take hold. In fact, the government is now struggling to reverse that attitude (a very ecocidal change!). One estimate says that without China's one child policy, the world would have 400 million more people. To put that figure into perspective, the US population is "only" 330 million. Think about all the cars that all those 400 million people are not driving right now, all the airplane trips they are not taking, all the air conditions, refrigerators, and clothes dryers they are not running. Again, that number is going to literally increase exponentially as time goes on, since the unborn are also busy not having their own children (grand children, and so on).

    We need to spread this desire to the entire world, i.e. as an entire species, adopt antinatalism. The one child policy (and the resulting attitude shift) is literally the greatest act of ecological preservation (though unintentional) of all time by far. Think about that next time you get the urge to make more babies.

  20. @julien271195

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    I am surprised that you know so much about France. I had no idea France was interesting to foreigners.

  21. @autious

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    There are some audio issues in this video for me. Buzzing background sound.

  22. @patrickdear911

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Excellent iniative by France. Lets hope that it gains EU support too. I agree that an analysis of GM would be usefull too.

  23. @MaelPlaguecrow6942

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    I like how there is nothing about nuclear power here. Something that could smash carbon problems all on its own.

  24. @TheGodEmperorOfMankind_

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    0:44 Uh, I don't think that's Cyprus

  25. @ferencgazdag1406

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    To stop climate change shows renewables
    Nuclear: Am i a joke to you?

  26. @boopyvacaine

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Let's hope that the rest of the world follows France's lead.

  27. @freebox1248

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    What about the French killing thousands of dulphins

  28. @REgamesplayer

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    CCC is not a good idea, letting people to decide for themselves is generally not a good idea. It usually leads to overly optimistic, idealistic and poorly thought out proposals. They often have tendency to show worst of democracy of being "tyranny of the masses". This CCC council had clearly shown that, they want to prosecute and imprison people for made up crimes.

  29. @lupo10

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Maybe they can stop killing all the dolphins with their fishermen.

  30. @TomekSw

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  31. @DoomDutch

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Banning GM crops and halving the usage of pesticides work against each other…

  32. @stevenbalekic5683

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Penalising older vehicles that pollute more is going to negatively affect lower income groups drastically. Not everyone can afford an expensive electric car or hybrid. With laws like this in place it can lead to hardship and a rise in crime.
    Maybe if an income test is utilised to determine if an individual is penalised for owning and driving a cheaper to buy 'unsatisfactory' vehicle.

  33. @ktelite

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    A lot of food that people call "nature" are actually modified. Why ban it. It does have a look t of potential right? Like making trees suck up twice the CO2 amount that they can before.

  34. @davidwarnes5158

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Didn't France blow up green peace ship in new Zealand a few years ago, after demonstrating against nuclear testing . Oh and killing the captain?

  35. @boostman5792

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Just seems like a new way to tax people with minimal effort from the government to promote any actual change.

  36. @RicodelRitmo

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    0:54 should be Gilets Jaunes and 0:57 Gilets Citoyens! Interesting subject tho!

  37. @Scarletraven87

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Beautiful.
    Nothing will make me think poorly of Macron from now on.

  38. @samker7758

    February 23, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    Lot of people talking about GMO and nuclear power plant so here is a little context from a French and European:
    GMO : the claims in the video was a little exaggerated , not exactly false but the vast majority of french don't want to completely ban GMO , just that we need long term empiric data to be clear on the effects of such crops as to avoid a disaster. Also, Europe on general has really strong & stricts standards in handling foods (pesticides used, chlorine, GMO etc), it may be a cultural/historical mindset but nonetheless it doesn't really cause harm to be careful instead of seeking productivity above all. (you should look at the stats in food poisoning in France Uk and EU members in general compared to other big countries such as the US). Again , each to his own on that point.
    Nuclear power: indeed France has made a lot of mistakes and rely heavily on that power, no excuses for that. The main point is , it is a mistake recognized and changes are in action right now (closing some of the nuclear power plant, using more renewable energy and most recently, research and on establishment of a nuclear fusion power plant.)

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