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The Secret Politics of Eurovision: Does Everyone Just Vote for their Allies & Neighbours – TLDR News
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Last weekend saw the Eurovision Song Contest take place, but some wonder if the competition is really about the songs. For years people have claimed that everyone just votes for their neighbours and allies, so in this video, we unpick this year’s voting patterns (as well as historic data) to see who voted for who…
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@MaxiMonkU2B
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Came from the future to say the UK still sucks year after year and Brexit effect is surely fading.
@cbflazaro
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
the fact that ukraine won this year, shows thats 100% political
@CarlosMGrade
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
I would like to see what they think now that the UK scored well
@damianchristie288
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
it is neither a song contest or a popularity contest it is a political arena where the voters are under the thumb of the all powerful pc brigade
@petru196
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
The UK literally came 2nd in 2022! So no, Europe doesn't hate the UK. It just has sent uncompetitive songs.
@captainchainsaw8856
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Last night it was sympathy votes because Ukraine's entry was bang average. Most of the songs were better than that
@KingOfTheSkies1
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Eurovison 2022 just proved that.
@petertaylor3446
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Yes it's political, look at the results this year look at the situation in Ukraine, Russia isn't there at all because of politics not because they have no performers or an Inability to think of a song
@CrysolasChymera2117
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Please make a video for what happened in eurovision 2022
@paulnolan8820
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
How the fuck did I got rid of putin seriously
@todistgut
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
If it was up to cluster voting Balkan countries would win every single time, having so many neighbors . But as we all know that's not the case, so Britain has nothing to complain about when their songs are just awful. 😀 😀 And it's pathetic, cause usually outside of Eurovison terms there are some really good artists making really good songs in Britain. But when it comes to Eurovision, you just send sh*t. 😀 😀 So don't be crybabies blaming it all on other countries and Brexit. No one cares that you left the EU. I mean, there are some political neighbor voting, yes. (usually because a lot of ethnic spillovers over the borders, example, a lot of Albanian expats live and work in Italy, so they vote for their ethnic homeland ) But it never determines the winner. OK so here is an idea: Why not Britain let Scotland and Wales secede and give Northern Ireland back to the Irish and maybe you'll have neighbors that like you and will vote for you… then you might not be such crybabies 😀 😀
@SamLennon201
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
poland giving 12 points to San marino
@thetrashmaster1352
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
As an Australian I can say in confidence that the UK does poorly because they send terrible performers. Every time Australia has sent someone good, Australia did well, every time Australia sent someone bad, Australia did bad….
That being said, Sound Of Silence 10000% should have won 2016 Eurovison and I am still incredibly salty about it. like WTF, in the semi-final it got 50 more points than the Ukrainian song but in the final it lost by 20.
@EmoBearRights
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Andorra wasn't in the competition this year. Germany has a ton of neighbours and yet only did well when they sent a quality Ed Sheeran style singer three years ago. Do alliances have a role? Sure but it's probably only that certain countries don't get nul points or bottom places but even then….Latvia is part of the northern voting block and more often than not these days comes dead last even if they've never had a nul point score. Even Italy, this year's winners who usually place in the top ten, did badly when the Sanremo winner declined the offer to compete and the artist they sent wasn't great. France often don't do well either sometimes the fan community think they actually don't do as well as they deserve. It's more complex than this presents it as, has a lot to do with culture and shared culture, fame of the artists in certain eras – the Serbian act this year are apparently huge in the Balkans, the Moldovan entry was written by an Eastern European Svengali and Greeks and was a huge hit across Eastern Europe, the Norwegian contestant is a huge star in his home country so it's not inconceivable he has a fair few fans in neighbouring Sweden and Denmark. Then there's factors like regional musical preferences for example the Georgian jury gave Italy twelve points because Georgia tends to like it's rock music and has sent quite a few rock entries over the years. Then there's diaspora votes the British Isles are home to quite a few Lithuaninans or those with descent from that country who will vote for that country although this year that country's entry was good and other places had them top of their televote. We were just very bland and not that great in a contest which featured two really exciting rock bands who were both seasoned performers and ergo able to slay on stage, a full on Edith Piaf performance from the French performed to perfection, a spine tinglingly excellent singer from Switzerland, two quirky pop acts with endearingly daft dance moves both excellently well sung. One of them – Iceland creating more buzz in the British media than our own entry even before the contest happened and they did a lot better than we did. This was because the Icelandic act was so charming that few can't help but love them. Their staging was top notch too as was Russia's who usually do well as they absolutely excel in that area and send quality artists. The one year they didn't they didn't get past the semis. Ukraine also has good staging and quality artists and this year they felt like a revolution with a genuinely innovative song that introduced a style that would be utterly unfamiliar to western Europe and western Europe mostly lurved it. We don't take risks – Italy and Ukraine did and they got rewarded with huge televote scores including points from every country.
@schtreg9140
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
The map at 3:40 debunks the whole premise, the graphic is just made so convoluted that the audience is supposed to not notice it. Ukraine's votes came from its "neighbours" which apparently includes France, Italy, Israel, the Baltics… and Serbia's sphere of influence apparently also spans a "small neighbourhood" from Greece to fucking Switzerland.
EDIT: Also, if the cluster theory is true, then the UK should have a massive advantage given that it's in the northern and western cluster, two clusters that consistently produce winners. Maybe just pick a either a better or at least a more interesting song next time.
@hoi4384
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Australia is in Europe and should join the eu
@freshprinceofthenet
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
You have the chance of being a European or global channel.
This kind of content will only make you smaller, just as brexit will, and showcase the English struggle when it comes to accepting their decadence within a West in decadence.
@bumblebee2956
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Stop watching Eurovision 3 years ago…dirty politics all around…nothing about the talent
@tooenipwp9203
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
UK got no points because they weren't great this year. The UK does not have a distinctive language to different themselves like France or Italy with makes its performance forgettable
@evraght
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
I mean that guy from UK was really bad and maneskin is pretty good. So you know…
@halfaperson2922
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
welp this answers why my friend wouldn't stop talking about it, Australia was involved, for some reason…
@editorrbr2107
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Zero points? Were they showcasing British cuisine?
@richardscudder466
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Or maybe, Here me out, they vote for neighbors because they have similar tastes in music.
@Endlave
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
you can tell me whatever you want, I will never stop believing that this contest is purely political. Ukraine winning when Crimea got annexed, that trans person winning to wave a imaginary rainbow flag all across Europe and Italy wins right after they got hit so drastically by Covid.
Yeah, there is a reason why you can usually manage to guess the winners even before hearing their songs.
@celtspeaksgoth7251
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Britain should submit separate national entries – I mean look at ex-Yugoslavia. Wales has a tradition of fine singing talent in both English and Welsh/Cymraeg. England +Scotland too of course. As Brits we LAUGHED at zero points for UK. It made the night complete for us.
To be honest the UK entry deserved NEGATIVE points. No-one here had ever heard of that fat slob before. There wasn't even a domestic pre-selection contest.
To think we have Ed Sheeran, Adele, Little Mix, Robbie Williams, Dua Lipa, One Direction, Coldplay and and and…. Bit sad for Europe really. They shouldn't be allowed to sing in English at Eurovision but only in their own tongue(s).
Ukraine should have won in 2007 (came 2nd – my all time favourite). Also Gina G in 1996 and Poland in 2014 – it was fixed for that Austrian clown to win to 'embarrass' Putin. Anyway by all accounts 2021 featured some fabulous songstresses in particular. The winning act from Italy was cringeworthy. Inserting mention of Brexit shows how inward looking these self-styled EU obsessives are. They should get out more.
@potatofuryy
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
This is hilariously bad
@cryaldood3656
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
I found out that there is a dutch video about this uploaded 2 days earlier.
@RaiderRich2001
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
you're missing the arrow from Iceland to Ja Ja Ding Dong
@rossellinirossicalrossc3507
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
the UK takes Eurovision as a total joke, doesn't take it seriously whatsoever, yet then complain when we don't win…..
The UK actually took Eurovision pretty seriously in 2009, Jade Erwin actually went across Europe promoting the song —- and guess what, we came 5th!
@zeanamush
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Yes Europe is definitely still Europe
@welcometotheinternet574
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
“Eurovision is all about politics”
Israel: And it took you THIS long to figure out?
@cakeisyummy5755
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
Yes, Eurovision is all about Politics.
Nobody actually wants to win.
@ratatatuff
March 6, 2024 at 10:02 am
I know, they started a huge marketing campaign for the song contest but I really wonder why it is still relevant. Now, I'd understand if each country would send a real artist with a real song but the only people participating are third rate wanna-be artists and the "music" (I hesitate to call that crap "music") is just bad.